Terminate this

by Yule Heibel on February 24, 2004

Having said that I’m tired of political posts, something happens that won’t allow me to shut up:

Arnold Schwarzenegger, making his Sunday talk show debut as governor, said that he and other foreign-born citizens should be eligible to run for the White House…. [More….]

I don’t know, I think the anti-foreign-born law is a good one. Germany should have had that law. At least we should see that one Austrian was enough. Of course Mr. Schwarzenegger doesn’t see the irony in his attack on Mayor Newsom’s issuance of marriage licenses to gay couples as “setting a bad precedent.” (See Maria, too, for excellent commentary on this.)


Joel February 24, 2004 at 6:30 pm

It’s OK to do a political post now and then, Yule. The key is moderation!

Ahnold told Meet the Press that he was afraid of “civil unrest” breaking out. Makes me think that he’s itching to play out the role of The Terminator in real life.

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Joel February 24, 2004 at 7:43 pm

I quoted you.

Joel February 24, 2004 at 9:01 pm
redwaterlily February 24, 2004 at 9:18 pm

you know, the Germans are all laughing about Arnold being Governor over here….and of course he is itching – i mean, why else go into politics – his big screen career was over and he had to find some other way to endulge his big ego.

I do have to agree with what Yule wrote re. One Austrian was enough – THAT he was.

btw. – I am originally from Berlin

Stu Savory February 25, 2004 at 3:35 am

BTW there is also a (mediocre) translation of Mein Kampf into English available. I’ll look up the ISBN number for you when I go home this evening. It is a very boring book however. But, just like Das Kapital, it is something one should have read to understand the 20th century better.


Stu Savory February 25, 2004 at 10:29 am

isbn 0-7126-5254-x.

Is this Ahn-nee speaking here ?

“Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and stimulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies …this must cause great damage in the youth. This sensual, sultry atmosphere leads to ideas and stimulations at a time when the boys should have no understanding of such things.”

No it’s a quotation from half way down p.231 FYI


Joel February 28, 2004 at 12:37 am

One thing about that Mein Kampf article is that it failed to mention Senator Alan Cranston who put out an unexpurgated edition of Mein Kampf for ten cents so that people could read what Hitler was really up to.

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Joel February 28, 2004 at 12:42 am

Delete that last comment, Yule. I’m going crazy and not remembering where I saw what.

Anonymous March 6, 2004 at 8:20 pm

I assume from the post after this one that you disapprove of creating a second class of citizenship for glbt people. But it seems that your belief in equality has its limits too.

Yule Heibel March 7, 2004 at 1:02 am

I’m not sure I completely understand which is the post after this one (Lanier Phillips?), Sennoma, but yes, I do disapprove of creating a second class of citizenship for GLBT people, and yes, I do also disapprove of altering the restriction that US presidents should be US-born. However, it seems to me that whatever I believe about equality matters a rat’s ass when all is said and done. Since I’m not a politician, arguments over what I believe or don’t believe are merely rhetorical and ultimately moot. I will support or withdraw support from people in politics depending on what they profess to believe, but as for what I believe…? Who cares? At some level, I’m deeply cynical. But if you take nothing else away from “Terminate this,” please understand that I just don’t like Schwarzenegger, and that because of my dislike, I really distrust his advocacy of changing the citizenship rule. That’s all. And I’m not sure I can think of this as an equality issue at all. And I think I might feel this way regardless of who suggested the change.

Anonymous March 7, 2004 at 12:46 pm

Well, since you’re being both personal (in a good sense!) and candid, I will confess that I am on my way to being a naturalized US citizen, and I would like the opportunity to run for President. Not that I ever would do so, I just don’t like the feeling that I am not a real citizen. If there remains a legal difference between me and a native-born citizen, I see that as inequality.

(Oh, and yes, I meant the Lanier Phillips post, sorry for the lack of clarity.)

Yule Heibel March 9, 2004 at 1:43 am

Ah, Sennoma, you’re a more ambitious individual than I, if you wish to express a desire to run for president… 😉 Maybe ambition and exactitude factor into equality in some way I never considered … I’m a lazy slob, myself. And tired, too. Bone tired. And sad, depressed to the bottomless depth of my heart, just sad. Is there equality in death, I wonder…

(Ok, laugh now, otherwise you’ll start to bawl.) Hey!, there’s a great line in AbFab where Eddie, overwhelmed by life’s complexities, tells either Patsy or Saffie, “I don’t want more choices, I just want nicer things!”

I wonder how the original native-born (but kept as non-)citizens saw or see it.

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